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    Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    Anyone hear of this? My cousins been reading/getting into it. Basically it teaches that the god that everyone is worshiping today is actually the Devil. The Devil, or "God" created the world and universe, including us to harvest the pain we intake from this lifetime which supposedly gives him power. The "real" God is in an entirely different realm, and supposedly wants nothing to do with this world since it was created by the Devil. Basically people, when they die, will go back to the Devil so he can harvest the pain we experienced from our lifetime, and then we are reincarnated into another body to so he can do it all over again. This will keep happening again and again until we "liberate ourselves", which means completely detaching ourselves from this world, not caring for anyone or anything (including your family, wife, and kids, since technically they are all creations of the Devil and are just living for the purpose to be harvested/tortured after they die), and not worshiping God (the God of any of the religions of the world), but instead worshiping the "true" God.
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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    For sure. I've been studying gnostic thought for a couple of years now. I wouldn't necessarily describe myself as gnostic but I've been shifting, in ways, toward that paradigm of thought more often than not lately.

    There are a few ways, however, to approach that kind of metaphysical model in regards to how you choose to live/die.
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    I've been studying and getting into Baha'i Faith and Zoroastrianism more than anything else. I like the ideals they preach. Baha'i Faith teaches unity between religions and combines Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, and Islam. Zoroastrianism is the predecessor to all monotheistic religions in the west (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, all took their shit from Zoroastrianism).
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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    I've been studying and getting into Baha'i Faith and Zoroastrianism more than anything else. I like the ideals they preach. Baha'i Faith teaches unity between religions and combines Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, and Islam. Zoroastrianism is the predecessor to all monotheistic religions in the west (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, all took their shit from Zoroastrianism).
    I actually live nearby a rather large Baha'i temple.

    The problem with them, however, is that despite the idea that all faiths should meld together in harmony... even within their own tent there are a number of divisions and schisms... some of which, I believe, were violent.

    It's funny but it goes to show that you just can't organize a religion that lives up to it's ideals.

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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    Here, check it out: it's the Demiurge's ironic sense of humor at work.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%...3%AD_divisions

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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    i don't mean to be a dick but it sounds as fuckin stupid as christianism or any other stupid whatever religion pretty much like all theology btw, which ain't none but sociology imo, n i hate sociology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Gorilla View Post
    i don't mean to be a dick but it sounds as fuckin stupid as christianism or any other stupid whatever religion pretty much like all theology btw, which ain't none but sociology imo, n i hate sociology
    Are you talking about gnostic thought in general, the Bahai, or Zorastrianism?

    Or are you just popping in to say that "everything is stupid and I hate it"?

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    I also don't mean to be a dick, I'm just looking for clarification.
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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Nipples View Post
    Are you talking about gnostic thought in general, the Bahai, or Zorastrianism?

    Or are you just popping in to say that "everything is stupid and I hate it"?

    *edit
    I also don't mean to be a dick, I'm just looking for clarification.
    nah, i'm talkin gnostic thought in general
    studyin anythin that involves a "god" or the devil or any other religious supranatural stuff sounds retarded to me, except if it has some sort of historical value maybe, like if it can explain why people did this or that years ago
    i just can't believe in anythin like that, leave alone studyin somethin i believe is not even real in the first place, it'd be like studyin werewolves or minotaurs or whatever

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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    As crazy as Gnosticism is, it explains a lot of the shit people did over history. Basically this world is one whole illusion and were not even supposed to be here (Gnostic belief). Its a pretty old religion to.

    The Baha'i Faith has started to explain historical events recently also. The other older religions haven't though (to my knowledge).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Nipples View Post
    It's funny but it goes to show that you just can't organize a religion that lives up to it's ideals.
    The Baha'is' believe that every "religion" has four phases. They use the seasons to describe it. In the religion's "spring", the religion as new, and the messenger of that religion is just starting out, but only has a few followers as most people and communities shun him. The summer phase is when people are more tolerant toward the religion and its messenger, and more and more people become followers of the religion (I think by the summer phase the messenger of the religion is possibly dead). By Fall the religion has reached its climax, and won't grow or won't receive many more followers (in a large scale). By Winter, the people are turning away from the religion, or the people that still consider themselves a part of that religion lack faith and do the things that religion considers a "sin" on a daily basis without care. People will also slowly loose interest and begin to turn to other ideals (atheism included).

    Then after the entire cycle, a new messenger comes and starts up the whole damn thing all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Gorilla View Post
    studyin anythin that involves a "god" or the devil or any other religious supranatural stuff sounds retarded to me
    Lol, well, if you're a full-blown athiest then why bother targeting gnostic anyway?

    I mean, I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you to believe anything beyond the mundane and observable world, but discussing the value of spiritual study is an entirely different conversation.

    I will say, at least, that studying gnosticism is entirely different from enjoining membership in an organized religion in that it's more of a mode of thought than a dogma complete with moral lessons and rituals... an athiest could derive value from it in the same way that an athiest could derive value from, say, studying the Tao or that "transcendental meditation" shit that David Lynch is on about these days.

    In other words, I would argue that it's not quite "as fuckin stupid as christianism"... but again if you're a full-blown atheist then the distinction I'm making doesn't really mean dick.
    That being said, I have a personal interest in studying religions and spiritual theories even if they are completely retarded. I've read the Old and New Testament, the Bagavaghita, The Vedas, the Upanishads, the Tao De Ching, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, LaVey's Satanic Handbook, Crowley's Book of the Law, and I'm about halfway through the Book of Mormon.

    Despite all this, I spend quite a bit of time listening to atheist/skeptic lectures of Hitchens, Dawkins, etc.

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    Told u bobby is a devil.
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    Stop bein' a dick, Bobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    Basically this world is one whole illusion and were not even supposed to be here (Gnostic belief).
    That's a concept strikingly similar to the more well known Buddhist concept of Samsara.
    In fact, it's been speculated that gnosticism is derived from Buddhist thought, but modern scholars are more likely to attribute it's origins to sometime around the 1rst/2nd centuries.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoss View Post
    Then after the entire cycle, a new messenger comes and starts up the whole damn thing all over again.
    Sure, but like I'm saying: even within a religion specifically built upon inclusion and harmony, one that lays claim to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, they still can't even get along with themselves. I mean, come on, how hilarious is it that you can have a religion claiming to encompass all major montheisms and yet rejecting adherents to another flavor of Bahai.

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    TO ADD TO THIS RELIGIOUS NONSENSE, I AM A DUDEIST PRIEST.

    BUT YEAH, MUCH LIKE BOBBY, I READ SEVERAL RELIGIOUS BOOKS AND DECIDED THAT EACH HAD A FEW GOOD IDEAS, BUT THE WAY THE RELIGIONS HAVE TRANSFORMED TO FOLLOW THE BOOKS IS FUCKING CRAZY.
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    Re: Philosophy With SuperMensans: Gnosticism

    Being a full blown athiest is just as silly as anything. it has just as weak of a logical foundation. because like most religions, it claims a certainty about things that can't be proved in any way we know of, except an internal feeling and belief based on nothing but one's own experience's and thoughts.

    i find myself feeling loosely connected to alot of religious groups, yet not truly connected to any one religion. the most basic way i can describe my own personal beliefs are that i'm a Deist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin View Post
    Being a full blown athiest is just as silly as anything. it has just as weak of a logical foundation. because like most religions, it claims a certainty about things that can't be proved in any way we know of, except an internal feeling and belief based on nothing but one's own experience's and thoughts.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
    and that's a bad thing?
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    don't know what particular thing you're asking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    and that's a bad thing?
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    don't know what particular thing you're asking about
    I think he's questioning whether or not a bad thing to be "just as silly as anything"... which still doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin View Post
    don't know what particular thing you're asking about
    Believing in things you've experienced and your own hypothesis rather than what someone else tells u.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    Believing in things you've experienced and your own hypothesis rather than what someone else tells u.
    Hrm... I think it might be slightly less retarded to take accountability for your own theories rather than taking another's at face value.

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    Hrm... I think it might be slightly less retarded to take accountability for your own theories rather than taking another's at face value.
    That's what I'm thinking too.
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    I was just laying in bed thinking about saying Larry is a hulkamaniac. I'm also a tronlodite. Eastside is a suicidalist and bobby is a juggalo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MASTERWEEDO View Post
    TO ADD TO THIS RELIGIOUS NONSENSE, I AM A DUDEIST PRIEST.

    BUT YEAH, MUCH LIKE BOBBY, I READ SEVERAL RELIGIOUS BOOKS AND DECIDED THAT EACH HAD A FEW GOOD IDEAS, BUT THE WAY THE RELIGIONS HAVE TRANSFORMED TO FOLLOW THE BOOKS IS FUCKING CRAZY.
    I decided to go over my book shelf, from left to right:

    • The Noble Qur'an
    • Cherokee Full Circle
    • Understanding Hinduism
    • Zoroastrianism
    • Aztec & Mayan The Illustrated Encyclopedia
    • The Upanishads (Easwaran Version)
    • Bhagavad Gita (Easwaran Version)
    • Lakota Belief and Ritual
    • Eastern Religions
    • The Essentials of Hinduism
    • Zoroastrianism: The Philosophies of the Parsi Religion
    • The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching
    • The Sacred Writing of the World's Great Religions (Really Old Book)
    • Baha'i Basics
    • Spirits of the Earth
    • World Religions
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    • The Sikhs
    • Siddhartha
    • Tao Te Ching (two pocket editions)
    • Teach Yourself Hinduism
    • Dharma: The Way of Transcendence
    • The Medicine Wheel
    • World Religions
    • The Essential Mystics
    • The Book of the Navajo
    • The American Indian: Myths and Legends
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    • Fair Blows the Wind (fictional novel someone wanted me to read)
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    • A Treasury of Philosophy (Volume II)
    • Mother Earth, Father Sky
    • The Way of the Spirit
    • Native American Myths and Beliefs
    • The Pillars of Wisdom (T.E. Lawrence, relly fucking old book, probably the one I have with the most value)
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    NICE fucking collection. Have you read through all of those?

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    HE PUTS ONE UNDER HIS PILLOW EVERY NIGHT FOR A WEEK AND LETS OSMOSIS DO THE WORK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Nipples View Post
    Lol, well, if you're a full-blown athiest then why bother targeting gnostic anyway?
    i guess i meant to be a dick after all

    i'm not targeting gnosticism in particular, it just happened to be what was being discussed

    I mean, I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you to believe anything beyond the mundane and observable world, but discussing the value of spiritual study is an entirely different conversation.
    "spiritual" to me is when you actually think about things, not when you consider n/or believe in random god-ish shit

    In other words, I would argue that it's not quite "as fuckin stupid as christianism"... but again if you're a full-blown atheist then the distinction I'm making doesn't really mean dick.
    it doesn't

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    Basically this world is one whole illusion and were not even supposed to be here
    i can relate to that, but i'm not sure i get why we wouldn't be supposed to be here

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    Being a full blown athiest is just as silly as anything. it has just as weak of a logical foundation. because like most religions, it claims a certainty about things that can't be proved in any way we know of, except an internal feeling and belief based on nothing but one's own experience's and thoughts.

    i find myself feeling loosely connected to alot of religious groups, yet not truly connected to any one religion. the most basic way i can describe my own personal beliefs are that i'm a Deist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
    it's not as silly as anything, n it's nothing like religions at all, n it's not internal feelings based on nothing but my own experience n thoughts
    nobody's ever experienced god, it's all mental
    don't you think it'd be a long time well known fact if god actually was around ?
    why won't people accept they just gonna die like every other animal n that's it ?
    the only thing religion can explain is why so many people are fuckin retarded

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    and that's a bad thing?
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    Eastside u didn't have to answer my question. It was a rehtoricle(Sp?) Question meant to point out the flaw in cliffs logic . Don't feel bad. I don't think cliff or bobby got it either. Which is odd because it makes it seem like they both didn't understand cliffs poast.
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    Rhetorical* now I remember
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Gorilla View Post

    it's not as silly as anything, n it's nothing like religions at all, n it's not internal feelings based on nothing but my own experience n thoughts
    nobody's ever experienced god, it's all mental
    don't you think it'd be a long time well known fact if god actually was around ?
    why won't people accept they just gonna die like every other animal n that's it ?
    the only thing religion can explain is why so many people are fuckin retarded
    claiming you know one way or the other with a certainty is fucking silly, no matter what side of the fence you're on. the best anyone can do is say, "I dunno". because that's the truth. trying to define a god to the point you can say it doesn't exist because He/She hasn't shown itself based on a particular set of rules, is just as pointless as trying to define a god to the point you can say it DOES exist, based on a particular set of rules. so to be so firmly, even aggressively atheist, is basically coming from the same stubborn standpoint and logic foundation as a devout muslim or Christian or what have you.
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    Fuck this thread for stealing my shit.


    http://www.supermensa.org/forums/sho...y-With-Mensans

    What is the nature of the universe?

    If a tree falls and no one is around; does it make a sound?

    Is there a god?

    What is reality?

    What determines fate?

    What is after death?


    And one that I was pondering is this. Nightmares are nightmares because they are bad, they are typically far from the norm in one or many fashions, often grim fashions. But; if the standard, or the norm of someone's everyday is just a living hell, then do their nightmares become substantially worse given that they live and breathe in nightmarish conditions?


    Also; the answers to the first questions.




    Titties

    If it has titties

    My god has three titties

    Titties is the fabric of reality

    Bra size for women

    Titties attached to mute women.

    And what followed was a bunch of Mensans arguing about sounds trees make.
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    This thread is just bullshit religion speak.
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    No one gives a fuck gonzo. Can't u ever talk about anything other than your favorite subject, the only subject u know dick about. . Yourself.
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    "completely detaching ourselves from this world, not caring for anyone or anything (including your family, wife, and kids."

    Any religion that tells you not to love your family and friends is bogus right away. There are so many joys in life and this religion wants you to ignore them? Even if they are some kind of illusion why not enjoy the illusion while it last?

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    calm your tits, gonzo. if the conversation became too intellectual and complex for you to follow, that's on you, man, not us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin View Post
    claiming you know one way or the other with a certainty is fucking silly, no matter what side of the fence you're on. the best anyone can do is say, "I dunno". because that's the truth. trying to define a god to the point you can say it doesn't exist because He/She hasn't shown itself based on a particular set of rules, is just as pointless as trying to define a god to the point you can say it DOES exist, based on a particular set of rules.
    very good poast, especially the "i dunno" part, but i still disagree (not sure whether i mean to be a dick or not)

    so to be so firmly, even aggressively atheist, is basically coming from the same stubborn standpoint and logic foundation as a devout muslim or Christian or what have you.
    except i don't come up with the most ridiculous fantasy bullshit tryin to tell people how to live

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    "completely detaching ourselves from this world, not caring for anyone or anything (including your family, wife, and kids."

    Any religion that tells you not to love your family and friends is bogus right away. There are so many joys in life and this religion wants you to ignore them? Even if they are some kind of illusion why not enjoy the illusion while it last?
    The idea is that if you enjoy the illusion "while it lasts", it lasts FOREVER, in a terrible cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.

    We invest ourselves in, become attached to, and fall in love with the material and impermanent things in this Universe, and this is the cause of suffering. The more deeply entrenched we are in this world, the more likely we are to return to it.

    ...at least, that's the Buddhist perspective.

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    "spiritual" to me is when you actually think about things, not when you consider n/or believe in random god-ish shit
    But... but that's what I do. That's why I read dissenting opinions and opposing theories.
    When have I ever claimed to believe in "random god-ish"? Like I said, I'm not going to proselytize anything because I don't know the truth... I would never assume to. All wisdom begins with the acknowledgement that we do not and cannot know the full truth.
    Because spiritual theories can run in opposition with eachother without entirely discounting eachother, I find it helpful to think of "beliefs" as temporary paradigms to be used in order to explore a concept more fully, and explore an idea through different perspectives.
    I have no core beliefs, but sometimes I will "assume" a belief system as convenient. I do think that there is value in having a flexible spiritual framework through which to view one's life... even if for nothing more than esthetic purposes.
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    Even if I were to find myself drawn to this I couldn't chase it, surely you can't destroy yourself, your family and your world on a gamble. I like my belief systems to be slightly less dependent of global suicidal apocalypse,. Let the almighty make that choice and Gnosticism from what I can gather doesn't insist people are almighty, just suckers. I'd have to read up a lot more to dismiss it as complete rubbish but you'd have to find something real special to feel comfortable here whilst disregarding all the other philosophies a few of you guys have gone over.
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    NICE fucking collection. Have you read through all of those?
    Not even close... maybe half.
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    The idea is that if you enjoy the illusion "while it lasts", it lasts FOREVER, in a terrible cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.

    We invest ourselves in, become attached to, and fall in love with the material and impermanent things in this Universe, and this is the cause of suffering. The more deeply entrenched we are in this world, the more likely we are to return to it.

    ...at least, that's the Buddhist perspective.



    But... but that's what I do. That's why I read dissenting opinions and opposing theories.
    When have I ever claimed to believe in "random god-ish"? Like I said, I'm not going to proselytize anything because I don't know the truth... I would never assume to. All wisdom begins with the acknowledgement that we do not and cannot know the full truth.
    Because spiritual theories can run in opposition with eachother without entirely discounting eachother, I find it helpful to think of "beliefs" as temporary paradigms to be used in order to explore a concept more fully, and explore an idea through different perspectives.
    I have no core beliefs, but sometimes I will "assume" a belief system as convenient. I do think that there is value in having a flexible spiritual framework through which to view one's life... even if for nothing more than esthetic purposes.
    Am I the only one who hopes this will last forever?

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    Am I the only one that's gonna threaten bill o Riley to shut his fucking mouth and change his fucking tone or I'm gonna shove that camera down his throat the next time the o Riley factor comes on TV?
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    BTW gnocsticm is for burger king dads that need a reason to feel better about themselves come Christmas. In other words. I think I see the light.
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    Am I the only one who hopes this will last forever?
    Is that flattery? I'm going to take that as flattery.
    Buy my book, it's called "I Don't Know Fuck-Shit (The Zen of Buggery)" Coming soon to Amazon.

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    What's a "Burger King Dad", and do I get to be one?

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    Told u bobby is a devil.
    A devil, or THEE devil?

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    Not where I'm from
    The 90's was the best era to live in the US. Better music (Luniz, Bone Thugs, etc), better games (Fallout, Age of Empires, Command & Conquer, etc), and I could go on forever.

    Not like this shit we have today. Even the underground music sucks balls today. Tali Demon, Psychopathic Records (who went down hill after 04) Area 51 Music... get the fuck outta here with that shit.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%...isions#The_Man

    "The House of Mankind and the Universal Palace of Order" followed Jamshid Ma'ani and John Carré, but appears now to be defunct. In the early 1970s a Persian man named Jamshid Ma'ani claimed he was "The Man"; or a new Manifestation of God. He gained a few dozen Iranian Bahá'í followers. John Carré heard of Jamshid, and wrote a book about him; trying to get other Bahá'ís to accept him as a new Manifestation. Carré even invited "The Man" to live in his home in California, but soon concluded, after living with "The Man" for four months, that "The Man" was not at all godly or spiritual and certainly not a Manifestation of God. "The Man" went back to Iran, and Carré ended all association with him.
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    A devil, or THEE devil?
    How funny would it be if I was the only one here who is actually a fallen angel?

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    Am I the only one who hopes this will last forever?
    If we can't be freed until somekind of global acceptance that leads to humanities downfall we are going to be a minute. i'd much rather live my life over forever unknowingly, that would basically be heaven to me. Understandably it would be horrible for others and that is where I draw the bullshit line on this whole thing really.

    At the very least it should encourage those aware of it to enjoy life as ,uch as possible and help others enjoy life much as possible so the ride is a little more bearable next time around. in that I find some good in the idea.

    For your average Joe all the aspects of a heaven can be found in living your life over again, your loved ones are there, even your pets get a pass.
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    A dad that works at burger king
    I don't know why I thought it would be anything other than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Nipples View Post
    The idea is that if you enjoy the illusion "while it lasts", it lasts FOREVER, in a terrible cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.

    We invest ourselves in, become attached to, and fall in love with the material and impermanent things in this Universe, and this is the cause of suffering. The more deeply entrenched we are in this world, the more likely we are to return to it.

    ...at least, that's the Buddhist perspective.



    But... but that's what I do. That's why I read dissenting opinions and opposing theories.
    When have I ever claimed to believe in "random god-ish"? Like I said, I'm not going to proselytize anything because I don't know the truth... I would never assume to. All wisdom begins with the acknowledgement that we do not and cannot know the full truth.
    Because spiritual theories can run in opposition with eachother without entirely discounting eachother, I find it helpful to think of "beliefs" as temporary paradigms to be used in order to explore a concept more fully, and explore an idea through different perspectives.
    I have no core beliefs, but sometimes I will "assume" a belief system as convenient. I do think that there is value in having a flexible spiritual framework through which to view one's life... even if for nothing more than esthetic purposes.
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